From: Martin Shough <parcellular.nul> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 13:27:33 +0100 Archived: Wed, 30 May 2012 18:34:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told >From: Don Ecsedy <don.nul> >To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul> >Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 11:12:49 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: Flying Saucers - The Greatest Lie Ever Told <snip> >So, we know this is not referring to Arnold's report of sighting >the amber or bronze colored small disks, but the Cascades >sighting of June 24, 1947. >What is really of interest here - and correct me if I am wrong - >but in 1947 all of the official statements and all the parties >interviewed, including Arnold, said he had left for Tacoma on >the 30th, not the 29th. It is only in The Coming of the Saucers >that Arnold says it was the 29th. >So, where did the Air Force and the Navy get July 29th? Hello Don Excuse me for butting in, but this is an interesting point. I hadn't noticed it before. You seem to be right, e.g. the FBI interview report from SAC Butte does say that Arnold told him he "left for Tacoma" on July 30, whereas Arnold's book gives July 29. Given that Arnold was writing several years later and was not immune to other small date errors we should probably give the benefit of the doubt to the near-contemporary documents. IMO this is made surer by the fact that, whichever day it was, he flew out very early (5:30 am he said), so early that he couldn't get fuel at Boise and would have to stop over at La Grande to top up (which he did) before going on via Chehalis to Tacoma. This was a significant fact for him in relation to the odd business of the Tacoma hotel room because it convinced him that nobody could have seen him leave Boise (and he had advertised no plan to do so). So this seems well-established. But he wrote a letter to Palmer (covering transmittal of a copy of his AF letter) dated July 29, when supposedly he would have been in the air en route to Tacoma. The flight to Tacoma took all day (even starting at 5:30 he didn't make Barry's Airport until dusk, he said) and would leave no time for typing or posting letters. So it would make sense that he wrote to Palmer from home on July 29 and left for Tacoma the next morning. As for where the Analysis of Flying Object Incidents got July 29 from, I suspect this is just a mistaken association : "On 29 July 1947, Kenneth Arnold, while flying near Tacoma, Washington, reported a formation of flying objects. The sketch of their shape corresponds closely to that shown in the photographs made by Mr. Rhoads. On the same day, two U.S. Air Force pilots at Hamilton Field reported two flying disks trailing a P-80, following it toward Oakland, California." I know of no drawing made by Arnold of the La Grande "ducks". This appears to refer to the June 24 sighting sketch, as you suggest, as does the reference to the Rhodes photos which we know were compared by Arnold to his objects. But that sighting was not "near Tacoma". However Tacoma was where the Rhodes photo was shown to Arnold by Brown & Davidson who came from Hamilton Field. I suspect someone just misread the file (along with William Rhodes' name) and, having conceived a mistaken association with the Hamilton Field incident because of the Brown & Davidson connection and the near-miss date, bracketed a bogus reference to Arnold in with the Hamilton Field case of July 29, which was a significant Blue Book unknown (#69 in the final tally) and very influential inside ATIC at the time, as well as becoming a major public case (another at the same base on the previous day also made the papers). Martin Shough Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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