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Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 20:03:18 -0300
Archived: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 18:34:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked


>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:38:48 +0100
>Subject: Ancient Aliens Debunked

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 15:33:07 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Ancient Aliens Debunked

>>>From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul>
>>>To: UFO UpDates <post.nul>
>>>Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 00:38:48 +0100
>>>Subject: Ancient Aliens Debunked

>>>http://tinyurl.com/9mpla2s

><snip>

>>>For once I consider a sceptical piece provides a very valid
>>>'balance' to a controversial TV series.

>>>But I'm interested whether others think so too.


>>There are some puzzles that remain for me, Dave.

>>The gold airplane found in Central America proved to be over a
>>thousand years old. The wooden model found in an Egyptian Tomb.

>>http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_7.htm

>>Each is of course is said to be copies of birds or perhaps
>>butterflies; ignoring the fact that not one bug or bird on the planet
>>has a vertical stabilizer, with horizontal stabilizers as well.

>>One culprit might fit the bill, a certain species of the flying fish:

>>http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/fish/flying-fish/
>
>>The gold trinket is a delta winged artefact and has a cockpit and a
>>windshield right where it should be.

><snip>

>Perhaps you haven't had time to view the complete documentary
>yet Don.

>But gold 'plane' artifact controversy is covered fully here -
>scroll through to the 1 hour 21 min mark.

>I think the narrator does a reasonable job of debunking it as an
>aircraft but you might disagree.


I wasn't convinced of the Catfish similarity. Cat fish have
their fins at mid body (called mid-wing on airplanes) not on the
bottom. The vertical 'fin' is too oversized to account for fish
similarity, artistic license aside.

Asking why the wings were curved for the flying model is like
asking why and kid's toy is not aerodynamic. Necessary for a
slow model, not for a jet. A 3/4 inch, 4x8 sheet of plywood will
fly at 30 miles an hour from the short runway of a 69 Meteor car
roof I learned this 40 years ago.

The curls in front might depict turbulence ahead of the leading
edge but I doubt it. The vertical 'stabilizer' intrigues me more
than anything. Do the lines denote stiffeners. Where's the
dorsal fin if this is supposed to depict a fish. They all have
dorsal fins.

A lot of the explanations offered were good. Not this one. Also
the chisel explanation was glossed over. They added this metal
and that  to make their chisels, the same metal used the same as
tie-clips to hold stone blocks together.

I watched a documentary once where these same ties were
discussed because metallurgical engineers wondered how these
people managed to come up with this alloy which modern metal
making didn't invent  at Bethel Steel until 1939.

This place on the ancient shore of Titicaca was dated at 17,000
years in this doc.

I don't know if this accurate. But if so how did metal workers
back then come up with chisels hard enough to work stone without
chisel marks?

Just more to confuse things.


Don Ledger


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