From: Vincent Boudreau <vincentboudreau.nul> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 22:17:22 -0400 Archived: Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:19:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Conspiracy Theories >From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul >To: post.nul >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 13:06:30 -0400 >Subject: Re: Conspiracy Theories >>From: Nick Pope <nick.nul >>To: post.nul >>Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:50:16 +0200 (CEST) >>Subject: Conspiracy Theories Hello William, Nick and List <snip> >The undercurrent in Nick's article is that people should just >stop thinking. It is telling the conspiracy theory world, >"There, there, don't worry, let daddy take care of it." Let our >formal government inquiries tell you what happened. Nick should >also have said, "Until the official explanations stop being >selective with the facts, there will be conspiracy theories". <snip> "Until the official explanations stop being selective with the facts, there will be conspiracy theories" is a nice way of putting it, but I think it goes further than that. Governments have a history of lying blatantly and shamelessly to the people, and the consequences of those lies cast a dark light on how they balance human lives with their interests. The Irag invasion, the Gulf War and the Vietnam War, to name just a few, were all based on lies, lies told by presidents with straight faces. We can lament on the life loss on the side of American forces, but those numbers reach at least the twenty- fold on the side of the victims of those lies. We are not talking about war only, we just have to sneak a peek at the past 70 years: the Tuskagee experiment and it's little brother in Guatemala, the CIA experiments with LSD on unknowing soldiers and the secret similar project implying Canadian psychiatrists. As the list goes on, a question arises: credibility is no more, the Roosevelts of this world are long gone - if they ever existed: if this is what we know, then what about what we don't know? Concerned and very competent citizens ask questions about evident inconsistencies in the official history, but to no avail. The same straight face liars write the official reports, reports that do not address the facts. They are not only picky on the facts they chose, they are also picky on the facts they chose to ignore. This is debunking at its best. I have so far avoided the word _conspiracy_: although it is part of the English language in all its right, it has become the perfect straw man argument. The use of the expression "conspiracy theory(ists)" as an argument says more of your tenure as a BS-er than anything else. It is the perfect weapon which serves 2 purposes: 1. The user places himself in an irreversible position of authority in relation to his adversary. The adversary is stuck with a shameful tag, and must then relinquish any credibility and authority: he's down and out in the bottom of the cuckoo's nest. The user is now invested by the powers of authority and credibility. He has downed to sacred clothe: the Authority now speaks through him. 2. Whatever the facts, they don't matter anymore... They will never be addressed. The bullshitter easily wins the game 2-0. But come to think of it, the true conspiracy theorists are the ones accusing the others of being so. They are the ones who base their opinion on fantasies. They are the ones who have chosen to ignore facts that do not fit their perception of history or reality, they are the ones who are killing any possibility of debate. "Don't bother me with the facts, my mind is made up" (S.F.) Concerned citizens are asking questions that deserve an answer. This simple process is denied by those who have the gall to play a name-calling game. This name-calling strangely looks like a form of prostitution to acquire credibility from the fabricators. Vincent Boudreau Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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