From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> Date: Sat, 27 Apr 2013 09:41:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3AC19FD4- Archived: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 08:24:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Brazilian MoD Discusses UFOs With Ufologists >From: Edward Gehrman <egehrman.nul> >To: <post.nul> >Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 08:15:20 -0700 >Subject: Re: Brazilian MoD Discusses UFOs With Ufologists >>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> >>To: post.nul >>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:49:46 -0500 >>Subject: Re: Brazilian MoD Discusses UFOs With Ufologists >>Sadly, that you are making no visible effort to take your >>"evidence" to those who could evaluate it and do something about >>it - and clearly have no intention ever of doing so (all the >>while, by the way, escalating the magnitude of your already >>extraordinary claims by tossing wild conspiracy theories into >>the mix) - tells us that even you have a pretty good >>understanding of how much weight your "evidence" carries. By >>which, of course, I mean how little. >Jerry, >You don't have the slightest notion of what my "evidence" >carries. You've never studied it. Being an orderly and working >in the ERs and surgeries of several large hospitals in >Albuquerque and San Francisco during the late 1950s gave me an >advantage when the Alien Autopsy footage was shown on Fox TV. It >immediately caught my attention because of the authenticity of >the surgical instruments and the body language of the surgeons >and the surgical nurse. I decided to investigate it further. >Those investigations eventually led to the monotreme hypothesis. >I'm a nobody,(a special education teacher for thirty-five >years). In 1989 I began writing a few short essays on >environmental matters but I've never written a book, nor had any >desire to be a superstar. Until the AA came into my life, I had >only a minor interest in UFO matters. >For the last eighteen years, I and a few other researchers have >been collecting all information pertaining to the nature of the >AA. Our most important discoveries were finding the crash site >in Socorro the cameraman described and to which he gave >directions, and the discovery of the Roswell crash site. I think >this information is important to the understanding of UFO >phenomena, but I realize that not many agree. >It hasn't been easy trying to discuss a subject that everyone >"knows" is a hoax. I've focused on you because, as I wrote you >many years ago, if I can convince you to take another look, I >can convince anyone. Besides, I can always count on you to >respond. Is there something wrong with that strategy? >But so far, I haven't been very successful. Not only have you >refused to examine our evidence, but your demeaning tone has >influenced others to ignore it as well. But there's always a >hope for redemption so I'll try again. What are the problems >with this "evidence"? You'll believe what you want to believe, Ed, and find compelling "evidence" that the rest of us will judge otherwise for reasons blazingly apparent to us but never to you. I saw enough of your "evidence" for me to recognize you as just another guy among many who believe they have upended fundamental, well-established human knowledge and thus are world-historical figures, even if unrecognized as such by all but themselves. One I know particularly well is a guy who believes he has conclusively disproved Einstein and most of modern physics. Like you, A. _knows_ he's right. Like you, he has no training in the requisite disciplines, no affiliation with a recognized professional organization or institution, no publication record in peer-reviewed journals, not even a knowledge of higher mathematics, the lingua franca of modern physics. Unlike you, A. makes a genuine effort to bring his world-shaking "discoveries" to the attention of working scientists, including genuinely world-class ones. Suffice it to say they are as unreceptive to his brilliant insights as I am to yours. Not to compare myself to a world-class scientist, naturally, but I am decently read in, particularly, history and have a pretty clear idea why your chances of being right are nonexistent. I'm sure you are a good human being, Ed, and sane in all aspects of your life except this one, in which you are the living definition of a crank. You are not going to overthrow centuries of accumulated knowledge in physical science, evolutionary biology, history, anthropology, and archaeology, and I am not going to waste my time pretending that you may have done so and thus I owe you my concentrated attention. In my long life on this side of the fringe, I've encountered all kinds of obsessives with all kinds of extraordinarily fantastic ideas (and "evidence" to match), nearly all of them in conflict with one another, and I'm sorry to say you're no different from any of them. I suppose I should be flattered that you feel that turning me to your side is fundamental to the making of your case, but it isn't going to happen. As I have said many times, the persons you need to convince are mainstream academics. It is they who have the power to judge your ideas and to do something about them in the unlikely event they are so inclined. I'm just a powerless freelance writer who follows outlandish notions and personalities for personal amusement and occasional material for an article or a book. I already have written the book about your fellow advocates of hidden races. It's titled Hidden Realms, Lost Civilizations, and Beings from Other Worlds (Visible Ink Press, 2010), and thanks for giving me the chance to plug it. Perhaps I should have given you a chapter. In any event, you're not the first, and you won't be the last, to believe in these things, and you'll be no more successful in changing the minds of reasonably informed and critical-minded outsiders. I'd urge you to go back and devote your time to doing something at which you can make a real difference, but as is always the case with individuals in your situation, I've learned, you think you've found your life's calling, and nobody can tell you otherwise. Of course, it's your life, and if chasing this particular phantasm gives you pleasure, well, it's a free country. As for my own freedom, I prefer not to pursue this discussion. By now, I ought to have known better than to set you off. Best wishes, Jerry Clark Listen to 'Strange Days... 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