From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:05:37 -0000 Archived: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 09:23:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Astronauts Kept Secret For Fear Of Dismissal >From: Dave Haith <visions1.nul> >To: UFO Updates <post.nul> >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 10:21:49 -0000 >Subject: Astronauts Kept Secret For Fear Of Dismissal >http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01qm3yr <snip> >But the Professor revealed that he had had a conversation with >an astronaut who revealed that previously all the astronauts had >experienced the weird lights but had not reported them because >they feared being taken off the space program. >If individuals were scared to speak up about a few flashes of >light then one can maybe understand their reluctance to report >UFOs. >The link above may not work outside the UK. I have a two minute >clip with the above quotes as an mp3 which I can send to anyone >interested. Further to this email I have now had a response from UFO sceptic Jim Oberg in which he appears to pour cold water on the whole issue. In the interests of fairness and balance I will paste his email below: ----- Dear Mr. Haith: Alas, the lurking pitfalls of depending on decades-old memories to validate mysterious phenomena, and to be made to appear to validate existing biases. As the slightest attempt at verification could have provided, the light flashes phenomena was noticed beginning with missions beyond the Van Allen belts - the first was Apollo-8in December 1968 - although as mentioned, ambient cabin lighting made them difficult to spot. Example: http://lsda.jsc.nasa.gov/books/apollo/s4ch2.htm Nevertheless, they were made an issue when Buzz Aldrin observed them on Apollo-11 andhis curiosity was piqued. By the later flights, the crews were provided with head shielding devices in an attempt to determine the origin directions of the flashes. Any crew reluctance to talk about them had nothing to do whatsoever with the 'unusual' nature, which you jump to conclude would also prevent them from reporting 'UFOs'. The crew concerns were with medical screening that might lose them their flight status, a constant battle with the crew flight surgeons. Similarly, EVA crewmen rarely reported 'bends' symptoms because of the potential of being removed from future spacewalk assignments. The exact opposite is true regarding 'UFOs'. From the very first manned space missions, all visual phenomena outside a spacecraft were of intense interest requiring immediate descriptions over open loops, to allow consideration of hazards from spacecraft malfunctions. Detailed reports of such phenomena were conducted and distributed by NASA teams. Here's an example from 1970: http://www.jamesoberg.com/moonpigeons.html Since the evidence you cite is first, misremembered and erroneous, and second, proof of the exact opposite that you are trying to claim, please have the intellectual integrity to email this note to your mailing list for them to consider the alternatives. I have posted details and evidence for my views on www.jamesoberg.com/ufo.html. Thanks for the opportunity of straightening this out.... Jim Oberg www.jamesoberg.com ----- Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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