From: John Donaldson <John.Donaldson.nul> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2013 22:26:32 +0000 Archived: Sat, 05 Jan 2013 07:31:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence >From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> >To: <post.nul> >Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 17:55:08 -0000 >Subject: Re: Artificial Intelligence >Hello John and Jason (and William), >It seems to me that you're all saying that we don't know enough >to come to firm conclusions about the possible/probable nature >of AIs, and I have to agree with that. >For Jason's view, I found that the "Chinese Room" >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room >and "Einstein's Brain" >http://tinyurl.com/ak5ogg8 >served as useful examples of the extremes of both pro and contra >arguments. >And for John's view, having done a lot of research in the last >couple of decades, have been led to a fairly strong >'evolutionary' view, reflected - I think - in actual history >(and pre-history), and anthropology/biology generally, maybe >even extending beyond the Earth life we know. That view is known >as the "Altruist Survivor" principle or hypothesis. <snip> Again - merely pointing to an evolutionary explanation for why human beings act morally does not count against the claim "there are moral facts", any more than merely pointing to an evolutionary explanation for why human beings have eyes and visual experiences would count against the claim "there are light facts". That doesn't settle the realism/anti-realism debate in ethics, of course; but even anti-realists about ethics acknowledge that the default position is realism (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-realism/) - i.e. anti-realists face the burden of argument, and we can assume moral realism is true until it is proven otherwise. That isn't to say that it can't be proven otherwise (or that it can), rather that if you want to make claims about the likelihood of amoral or evil super-AIs based on a rejection of moral realism then you better be prepared to argue for it, at length and with sophistication. Best wishes, John Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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