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Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:07:27 -0300
Archived: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 06:09:36 -0400
Subject: Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:06:26 -0500
>Subject: Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 14:15:31 -0300
>>Subject: Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

>>>From: Giuliano Marinkovic <giuliano.marinkovic.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 10:33:32 +0200
>>>Subject: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

>>>Dear Colleagues,

>>>Don Ecker, former Director of Research for US UFO Magazine,
>>>digitized and made available important audio of the 1992 debate
>>>in Denver between him and Phil Klass which was organized by
>>>Michael Corbin at the time.

>>>During that historical debate, Klass made the infamous comment
>>>about the Valentich incident suggesting that "there is reason
>>>to suspect that Valentich who was a very young and
>>>inexperienced pilot, may have been on a drug-running mission."

>>>Audio of the debate was broadcast in Don's show Dark Matters
>>>Radio and you can download it here from this link:



>>If Klass wasn't a paid* shill for the dis-information sections
>>of the US Intelligence communities I would be really surprised.

>Hi, Don,

>No evidence exists that Klass was anything other than who he
>represented himself to be, a hard-core - you could say fanatical
>- disbeliever.

>I knew him and had an extensive correspondence over two decades.
>I spent more time on the subject of Philip J. Klass than perhaps
>is good for one.

>Much can be said in criticism of Klass's excesses, and in his
>lifetime I, a non-admirer, said much of it. You couldn't say,
>however, that he didn't sincerely believe the stuff he dished

Hi Stan and Jerry,

I was often staggered by the simplistic - simple minded really -
explanations of various UFO encounters made by Klass during his
time at the "skeptic" helm. Given the man's intelligence, his
was another of those weird personalities like Donald Menzel who
would ignore 90 percent of a report while fixating on the other
ten percent that could possibly explain the case away as
something prosaic while ignoring their own training,
particularly Menzel whose background was in physics and

Klass's background was technical but in each case these two were
prepared to throw out their training in order to come up with
ridiculous explanations.

I don't believe that either of these two were doing this out of
fervent disbelief but were acting on another agenda. They are
gone now but others seemed to have stepped into the spaces they
left behind.

If I have learned anything over the last 68 years it is that
many people are not what they appear to be. I'm often
flabbergasted by what I find about people that I've known (or
thought I knew) for 30 - 40 years.

Incidentally, does anyone else find it a bit weird that what we
knew as Echelon (the downlink in Scotland) for over a decade
(Errol probably has exchanges about this in his database going
back further than 10 years) is suddenly rising up to bite
Pres. Obama in the butt albeit via the operation out of

Don Ledger

[Echelon-related posts go back to 1998 - see:


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