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Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 07:55:45 -0500
Archived: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 09:09:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident


>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:07:27 -0300
>Subject: Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:06:26 -0500
>>Subject: Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

>>>From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 14:15:31 -0300
>>>Subject: Re: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

>>>>From: Giuliano Marinkovic <giuliano.marinkovic.nul>
>>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>>Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 10:33:32 +0200
>>>>Subject: Klass' Infamous Theory About Valentich Incident

>>>>Dear Colleagues,

>>>>Don Ecker, former Director of Research for US UFO Magazine,
>>>>digitized and made available important audio of the 1992 debate
>>>>in Denver between him and Phil Klass which was organized by
>>>>Michael Corbin at the time.

>>>>During that historical debate, Klass made the infamous comment
>>>>about the Valentich incident suggesting that "there is reason
>>>>to suspect that Valentich who was a very young and
>>>>inexperienced pilot, may have been on a drug-running mission."

>>>>Audio of the debate was broadcast in Don's show Dark Matters
>>>>Radio and you can download it here from this link:

>>>>http://tinyurl.com/p9jvru3

>>><snip>

>>>If Klass wasn't a paid* shill for the dis-information sections
>>>of the US Intelligence communities I would be really surprised.

>>Hi, Don,

>>No evidence exists that Klass was anything other than who he
>>represented himself to be, a hard-core - you could say fanatical
>>- disbeliever.

>>I knew him and had an extensive correspondence over two decades.
>>I spent more time on the subject of Philip J. Klass than perhaps
>>is good for one.

>>Much can be said in criticism of Klass's excesses, and in his
>>lifetime I, a non-admirer, said much of it. You couldn't say,
>>however, that he didn't sincerely believe the stuff he dished
>>out..


>Hi Stan and Jerry,

>I was often staggered by the simplistic - simple minded really -
>explanations of various UFO encounters made by Klass during his
>time at the "skeptic" helm. Given the man's intelligence, his
>was another of those weird personalities like Donald Menzel who
>would ignore 90 percent of a report while fixating on the other
>ten percent that could possibly explain the case away as
>something prosaic while ignoring their own training,
>particularly Menzel whose background was in physics and
>astronomy.

>Klass's background was technical but in each case these two were
>prepared to throw out their training in order to come up with
>ridiculous explanations.

>I don't believe that either of these two were doing this out of
>fervent disbelief but were acting on another agenda. They are
>gone now but others seemed to have stepped into the spaces they
>left behind.

Hi, Don,

Unless somebody can demonstrate actual contrary evidence - and
frankly I doubt it exists - the most obvious explanation for
Klass's behavior is not all that complicated: he was obsessive
and fanatical in his opposition to the idea that UFO reports
represent something other than hoaxes and errors. The occurrence
of obsessed fanaticism among our fellow humans is overwhelming
and undisputed, as the daily news attests. Its manifestation is
hardly novel enough to occasion dark, conspiratorial ruminations
when it manifests in somebody with whom we happen to be
acquainted.

If anything, Klass was _too_ sincere, constitutionally unable to
step back and look, from an intellectual distance, at himself,
his beliefs, and his methods. He conceded error so rarely that
when he did, it was a moment to be noted and savored (e.g., the
incident in which he lost a bet to Stan Friedman). He wouldn't
even admit, many years later when it wouldn't have mattered,
that his superplasma speculation (proposed in UFOs Identified)
was an exercise in pseudoscience, long after the Condon
Committee (and others) proved as much.

As one who's been accused of being a CIA operative on occasion,
I have a rare - very rare - twinge of sympathy for the late Mr.
Klass on this one.

I wrote the article below in late 1980 (published early the next
year), but everything it says about Klass's thinking and methods
remained true till his death. The accompanying photo, by the
way, is decades old. I don't look like that anymore.

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc402.htm


Cordially,

Jerry Clark




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