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Re: Physiological & Psychological Effects Of

From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:46:56 +0100
Archived: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:10:59 -0400
Subject: Re: Physiological & Psychological Effects Of

>From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 09:40:28 -0700
>Subject: Re: Physiological & Psychological Effects Of Adrenaline


>So, yes, our perceptions can be distorted in moments of high
>stress, but it doesn't mean something didn't happen. I was
>being burglarized, whatever psychological state I entered.

>There was a recent plane crash at SF airport. I'll bet most of
>the passengers and outside eyewitnesses experienced the "Oz
>factor", but the eyewitnesses turned out to be pretty darned
>accurate when more facts came out. According to one passenger,
>when the tail struck and broke off, he saw some of the
>passengers ejected out the rear, which he found unbelievable
>(but turned to be true), and other witnesses spoke of the plane
>seeming to cartwheel, with a video later showing the plane doing
>a 360 on its nose before the rear crashed down again, again
>pretty darn surreal.

Hello David,

I completely agree, there is always a stimulus (even if it is a
Chinese lantern), and the effects will vary across a group of

I have only seen the brief extract of Artwohl's book at the
earlier link, but several things occurred to me.

a) Police are often assumed to have very accurate recall, even
under stress. (They are frequently cited along with pilots and
service personnel as "expert witnesses", "credible witnesses",
or "trained observers" in UFO reports, including reports to the

b) Police are more often in stressful (potentially dangerous)
situations than the majority of society, so it is reasonable to
expect them to be better able to manage the effects of stress.
This may be true, and higher levels of distortion or lower
thresholds of stress may apply to the wider public.

c) I am currently working on a report involving two people, each
of them have some common recall of the event, but in some
respects their recollection is very different, including about
major factors like direction. They were stood next to each
other, known to each other and in familiar territory. I am
wondering if one of them was more susceptible to the effects of
Adrenaline than the other. Unfortunately I can't go into more
detail for witness confidentiality and investigative protocol

d) The examples at the link involve people in extreme
situations. I wonder if more subtle manifestations of the
effects of Adrenaline are produced in less extreme situations.

For the record, I have also experienced some of the effects
described and observed them in others, sometimes in situations
where there was no real threat but only a perceived, undefined
and unsubstantiated  threat (think of some of the ghost-hunting
programmes for example).



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