From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:24:27 -0500 Archived: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 17:29:12 -0400 Subject: Oz-Factor [was: Physiological & Psychological >From: Joe McGonagle <joe.mcgonagle.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:52:42 +0100 >Subject: Re: Physiological & Psychological Effects Of Adrenaline >>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> >>To: post.nul >>Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:03:12 -0500 >>Subject: Re: Physiological & Psychological Effects Of Adrenaline ><snip> >>Joe, >>Actually, this is pretty much what I was expecting from you. >And you can expect more of it, Jerry. As always, you will always >think you are right even when you are wrong, so there is little >point in disagreeing with you. >Just as well I haven't mentioned kryptopyrrole. >...oops... Joe, It seems obvious that you don't even know what the "Oz factor" is. You're quitting while you're behind, which demonstrates that, at least in this one regard, you have more sense than I would have credited you with. Of course, you will continue your discourse with those who know as little of the phenomenon's dynamics as you do. For the rest of us: It bears noting that some Oz-phenomenon cases span hours. Among the most remarkable cases of which I am aware is one (albeit hardly the only one) that played out over several hours. At no time did the witnesses, a married couple with no interest in anomalies and the paranormal, feel even faintly threatened or frightened. No unusually intense emotions were involved, nor was there any occasion for the sort of concentrated, ignore-all-else attention required in a life- or-death situation. It all began when they attempted to do a good deed. As I have stated before, to compare deadly-force decisions with the passive experience of Oz phenomena is to argue that apples are elephants Only "skeptics" believe that. The couple thought their experience, as it developed one evening on the streets of a mid-sized American city, was sort of odd but that it was no more than unusual. It was only later, as they sought to reconstruct what had happened to them, that they came to appreciate how truly beyond- explanation it was. Again, as I've noted, this is not atypical. Debunking mythology notwithstanding, witnesses are not ordinarily driven into states in which they see their very existence as threatened, and thus block out all else. Overwhelmingly, they keep their heads, they observe their surroundings, and they do not automatically jump to the most extreme conclusions. Rather, as Allen Hynek demonstrated long ago with UFO sighters, they are more likely to resort to an escalation of hypotheses. I can testify to that through personal experience of an extraordinary anomaly (albeit not of the Oz phenomenon as such). It should also be stressed that the couple's was not a UFO encounter. The Oz phenomenon is not specific to high-strangeness UFO cases but is observable across the spectrum of extraordinary experience. It is one reason I came to the conclusion years ago - I've discussed these views more formally elsewhere - that while there is a core UFO phenomenon represented by CE2s and radar/ visuals, there is also a shadow phenomenon of high- strange experiences (not events as such) linked to longstanding supernatural traditions which manifest in various forms at different times and in different places. This otherworld may be encountered less in altered states of consciousness than in anomalous ones wherein at least a circumscribed amount of collective perception is possible. I encourage Listfolk who are more intellectually astute, energetic, and curious than Joe McG is to consult the relevant literature. Incidentally, recently I have been reading psychologist Peter A. McCue's book Zones of Strangeness (2012). Discussing Jenny Randles's term "Oz factor," he makes this salient point: (p. 86): "Using the word 'factor' to describe an _experience_ is inappropriate, since it's more generally used to refer to some sort of cause or precipitating event (as in, 'Smoking is a common _factor_ in respiratory disease')." I have resolved from here on out to call it the Oz phenomenon, not the Oz factor. Jerry Clark Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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