From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:41:02 -0500 Archived: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 06:18:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Grant Cameron's 'Mental Effects' >From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 19:58:49 -0700 >Subject: Re: Grant Cameron's 'Mental Effects' >>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul> >>To: post.nul >>Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 08:47:40 -0500 >>Subject: Re: Grant Cameron's 'Mental Effects' >>>From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul> >>>To: post.nul >>>Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 12:07:18 -0700 >>>Subject: Re: Grant Cameron's 'Mental Effects' >>>>From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul> >>>>To: post.nul >>>>Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 01:05:30 -0400 (EDT) >>>>Subject: Grant Cameron's 'Mental Effects' >>>>Does anyone have more info on Grant Cameron's views on the >>>>'mental effects' with regard to UFOs? >For a recent lecture by Grant on exactly this topic see: >http://tinyurl.com/n56yjbv >>>Another "mental case" that Grant has looked into was that of >>>Mrs. Francis Swan, a 1950s contactee, who said she was in mental >>>contact with an alien named AFFA. I helped Grant dig up some >>>obscure information on this, such as the 1954 orbiting satellite >>>story that broke in the news in August 1954. >The AFFA story begins about 40 minutes into the lecture. Go >about 49 minutes into the lecture, and Grant talks about Betty >Hill's connection to this. Hill lived less than a mile from >Frances Swan, was put in contact with Swan by Adm. Herbert >Knowles who knew Swan well (they were neighbors also) and had >sent her automatic writing connection to AFFA up the >intelligence chain of command (which eventually ended up on >Eisenhower's desk). When Hill tried to talk to Swan about her >abduction experience, the very religious Swan refused to talk to >her when Hill described the greys, saying they were the "evil >ones" whereas AFFA was one of the blond Nordics and one of the >good ones. Swan threw her out of the house. >Decades later (not in the lecture), Grant told me he also spoke >to Mrs. Swan and she was still calling the greys the evil ones >and AFFA one of the good ones. Grant told me she also said that >she tried to warn the CIA guy not to try to establish mental >contact with the evil ones, but that is another story. >(Allegedly the guy couldn't get them out of his head and went >half crazy.) >Wilbert Smith also claimed to be in telepathic connection with >AFFA and was receiving information on how to build an >experimental device to test antigravity propulsion. Smith also >said he was able to communicate with ordinary radio. >Yes, this is also very weird to me as well, but Grant is >probably the authority on Wilbert Smith, having all his known >papers and talked to his family and associates, and is a serious >researcher who thinks out of the box and goes places I'm afraid >to touch because I don't have any idea on how to approach the >material. It also gives me the creeps. But it is certainly >interesting to think about. >>Mrs. Swan's psychic contacts gave rise to a fantastic legend >>about UFOs over CIA headquarters. The legend, which David >>mentions, isn't true (or, more accurately, is wildly >>exaggerated). Nor is there any reason to believe Swan's aliens >>existed outside her head. >But according to Grant Cameron, Smith, the Canadian government, >the CIA, and the Office of Naval Intelligence (Adm. Knowles >connection) took Swan and AFFA very seriously and were trying to >establish communication with him, even have him land at a >Canadian base. Paul Hellyer, when he was Defence Minister back >then, had a hand in this. >It is also true that Swan was independently saying AFFA was >telling her that they were in two large orbiting satellites >(this was early 1954). This eventually ended up on Eisenhower's >desk. Thanks for getting me to watch the whole lecture, David. I found it quite interesting, though I harbor many reservations. I will, however, wait to read Grant Cameron's promised book on Wilbert Smith for a fuller account of his views and the chain of evidence he applies to get there. I will, however, say that while I certainly respect his research into Smith's life, experience, and belief, I do claim superior knowledge of alleged psychic contacts with ETs simply because I've spent a lot of time studying the subject's history. I detect no evidence of Cameron's awareness of the matter, which has a rich history in 19th-C. occultism and was going on into the 20th Century even as the flying-saucer age was beginning (e.g., Ole Sneide). Suffice it to say that such history does not afford anyone confidence in the veracity of such communications, however sincere the channeler may be (and I doubt that anyone would question Smith's integrity in these matters). For details, see the middle chapters of my 2010 book Hidden Realms. In Smith's case, if one is to take the stories literally, one is forced to believe in - as one who embraced the 1800s-era communications would have been - the existence of Martians. It should be noted, by the way, that the alleged ET "Affa" shows up first in George Hunt Williamson's writings, along with a whole lot of other space people with exotic names. I am perfectly able to accept that UFOs are real and that many strange things happen. The real problem is that people's analyses of these puzzling, confusing phenomena are askew. (As is Cameron's grammar; he repeatedly confuses "phenomena" [plural] with "phenomenon" [singular]. As an editor I am sure that one day the broad mangling of these two will drive me completely around the bend.) Anyway, I look forward to reading Cameron's book and hope it appears in the reasonably near future. I'm sure it will be most fascinating. Jerry Clark Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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