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Re: Kathleen Marden on Coast to Coast

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 17:36:06 +0100
Archived: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 05:36:10 -0400
Subject: Re: Kathleen Marden on Coast to Coast


>From: Kathleen Marden <Kmarden.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 07:24:29 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: Kathleen Marden on Coast to Coast

>>From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 12:34:12 -0400 (EDT)
>>Subject: Re: Kathleen Marden On Coast To Coast

>>Ms. Marden, with all due respect and no offense intended, but
>>at the end of the show you were discussing "the astral plane",
>>"astral projection", and "raising one's vibrations". You were
>>discussing it because that's what your abductees told you, so
>>therefore it must be right, correct? You have left science
>>behind and have entered New-Age "woo-hoo" land. However, you
>>can make a u-turn and come back. I suggest you do so
>>immediately.

>With reference to statements I made on Coast to Coast, I was
>speaking of information I received from 3 theoretical physicists
>that I had consulted regarding information that several
>experiencers had passed to me independently. I asked if it was
>scientifically possible and discussed the answers I received
>from them. Are you suggesting that these highly respected
>physicists who've worked at Harvard and MIT are out in woo woo
>land?

>There has been much discussion recently about other dimensions,
>parallel universes, and other planes of existence. It is all
>theoretical and highly speculative. But I've been asked to
>express an opinion about it, along with religious belief
>systems, so many times, that I included a discussion of
>alternative hypotheses, including psychological explanations, in
>the last chapter of "The Alien Abduction Files. In the past,
>I've refused to engage in this type of speculation, because I
>find it uncomfortable. But I have addressed it recently. What
>some consider mysticism, others consider science. It is in my
>gray basket. But I will discuss what others have hypothesized,
>when asked.

>I have certainly not thrown western scientific materialism out
>the window. I have merely stated that some abduction related
>phenomena cannot be adequately explained within the tenets of
>our current scientific paradigms. For example, how does one
>explain telepathic communication, light orbs, and passing
>through solid surfaces? We'd have to state that it is a figment
>of one's imagination. Yet, hundreds or thousands of individuals
>from around the world have described the same phenomena, in
>conjunction with UFO abductions.
<snip>

Hello Kathleen and Jason,

Apologies for interrupting, but recent off-line discussion
(yesterday) gave an insight on the 'other dimensions' debate.

That is, although I'd always dismissed the thought of other
dimensions, re-thinking the premises outlined in 'Flatland' by
Edwin Abbott Abbott - see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland

a stark fact leaps out: no inhabitant of Flatland (like us)
could imagine or find experimental evidence of other dimensions.
Only the intrusion of someone or something from a _further_
dimension could present such evidence (which would appear as a
miraculous, paranormal or UFO/ET event). So all my scepticism
hits a brick wall there - it's a moot question.

Incidentally 'western materialism' is also under question these
days - see my note of last month

http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2013/may/m13-003.shtml

on Dilworth's 'The Metaphysics of Science' (review at:

http://tinyurl.com/kn8rnrw

That seems to complement other opinions, from many high-placed
physicists and logical theorists, that determinism (western
materialism) has failed to answer the big questions of
cosmology, physics and consciousness - so other approaches
should be tried.


Cheers

Ray D


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