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Re: Scattered Not Unified

From: Don Ledger <dledger.nul>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:02:09 -0300
Archived: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:02:37 -0400
Subject: Re: Scattered Not Unified


>From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:43:27 -0400 (EDT)
>Subject: Re: Scattered Not Unified

>>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:19:13 -0400
>>Subject: Re: Scattered Not Unified

><snip>

>>In the recent exchanges, it was only one person who opined that
>>"Abductees lie. Abductees make up stories and add all kinds of
>>details to their narratives." The posts by others, about
>>"dimensions" for example, were actually based on accepting the
>>reality of the experiences. Experiencers should see that as a
>>plus.

><snip>

>Lest you misconstrue my words Mr. Treurniet, I did not imply
>that there was nothing to alien abduction. I merely stated that
>is a well known fact, something called confabulation. Several
>abduction researchers have commented on this with regard to
>alien abduction.

>Hopkins and Jacobs have both touched on this several times, that
>is the difficulty in determining which part of the narratives
>are true and which parts are false.

>For example, Jacobs believes talk about the aliens' faces being
>blurred or that the abductee is somehow prevented from seeing
>the faces is simply not true and he feels that if you push
>through with hypnosis that this has arisen in the mind of the
>abductee and was not apart of the experience.

>This is but one small example and confabulation can become quite
>complex in detail with regards to other examples. So what I was
>cautioning against is the mere acceptance of abductee narratives
>at face value. Parts of the experience may be real and parts may
>be fantasy invented by the abductee and included in the
>narrative.



>-Jason Gammon


Thanks for bringing the obvious to our attention. This is old
think being recycled. Rest assured that if the "media" focused
their attention on this discussion your downgrading of the
veracity of all of those affected by this phenomenon will
instantly be suspect and all will be then confabulators.

I can assure you that none of those I interviewed back in the
beginning were the least bit interested in public exposure but
were indeed seriously affected by what happened to them; some to
the point of seeking psychiatric help. Unfortunately a small
percentage of the affected do confabulate, identifying
themselves with the phenomenon for other psychological reasons
that have nothing to do with actual abduction.

The fringe will always be present whether they be be politicians
or abductees.


Don Ledger



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