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Re: Scattered Not Unified

From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:13:19 -0400 (EDT)
Archived: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 07:54:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Scattered Not Unified


>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 08:42:03 -0400
>Subject: Re: Scattered Not Unified

>>From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:43:27 -0400 (EDT)
>>Subject: Re: Scattered Not Unified

>>>From: William Treurniet <wtreurniet.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 13:19:13 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: Scattered Not Unified

>><snip>

>>>In the recent exchanges, it was only one person who opined that
>>>"Abductees lie. Abductees make up stories and add all kinds of
>>>details to their narratives." The posts by others, about
>>>"dimensions" for example, were actually based on accepting the
>>>reality of the experiences. Experiencers should see that as a
>>>plus.

>><snip>

>>Lest you misconstrue my words Mr. Treurniet, I did not imply
>>that there was nothing to alien abduction. I merely stated that
>>is a well known fact, something called confabulation. Several
>>abduction researchers have commented on this with regard to
>>alien abduction.

>>Hopkins and Jacobs have both touched on this several times, that
>>is the difficulty in determining which part of the narratives
>>are true and which parts are false.

>>For example, Jacobs believes talk about the aliens' faces being
>>blurred or that the abductee is somehow prevented from seeing
>>the faces is simply not true and he feels that if you push
>>through with hypnosis that this has arisen in the mind of the
>>abductee and was not apart of the experience.

>In the absence of confirmatory evidence, the use of the word
>'confabulation' is equivalent to the use of the word
>'pareidolia'. The experiencer is said to be confabulating when
>he/she describes something too odd to accept.

>I suggest that, like 'pareidolia', 'confabulation' is not an
>explanation, but a succinct expression of ignorance of the
>facts.


I'm not sure you properly comprehended my reply so let me try
again.

Several abduction researchers have spoken out that parts of the
abduction narratives are fantasy. Jacobs gave an example of
abductees who claim the aliens do something to them to cause
their faces to appear blurry, to prevent the abductee from
seeing their faces. The abductee usually responds this is done
to lesson their fear.

Jacobs believes this is confabulation, a fantasy the abductee
has invented and added to the narrative. Jacobs argues the
aliens have shown their faces to the abductees many times before
so it makes no sense to all-of-a-sudden begin to mask their
faces. This would be one example of confabulation. Confabulation
can be simple and it can also be complex or intricate in detail.

Part of the abduction researchers' job is to separate
confabulation from the "real experience". However, new abduction
researchers may not be aware of this. This is why we simply
cannot take everything abductees claim at face value.


-Jason Gammon



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