From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 22:04:58 +0100 Archived: Wed, 15 May 2013 07:39:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Critique Of Dolan's Sourcing & Conclusions >From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 13:41:31 -0700 >Subject: Re: Critique Of Dolan's Sourcing & Conclusions >>From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul> >>To: post.nul >>Date: Sat, 11 May 2013 01:54:37 -0400 (EDT) >>Subject: Re: Critique Of Dolan's Sourcing & Conclusions >>>From: J. Maynard Gelinas <j.maynard.gelinas.nul> >>>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul> >>>Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 12:34:58 +0800 >>>Subject: Critique Of Dolan's Sourcing & Conclusions <snip> >Unfortunately, without something like recovered craft and bodies >available for public inspection, anything could conceivably be >true and we are reduced to speculation. >There is just no way for ordinary folk like you or I to test >these ideas. Hello David, Jason And Maynard, You can include me in that last sentence - however a Bayesian analysis of the huge amount of (apocryphal) evidence could present a thesis (and antithesis) for consideration. As posted a few years ago: http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2008/may/m01-012.shtml Early last century there was an apparent breakthrough among some thinkers reappraising humans' position in the universe. Vladimir Ilyich Lenin (our image of him was almost wholly created by Stalin, his brutal and manipulative successor) met with the famous `science-fiction' writer H.G Wells in 1920. Here's the thesis:- Apparently Lenin told Wells - "I understand this myself when I read your novel The Time Machine. All human conceptions are on a scale of our planet. They are based on the pretension that the technical potential, although it will develop, will never exceed the 'terrestrial limit'. If we succeed in establishing interplanetary communication, all our philosophical, moral and social views will have to be revised. In this case, the technical potential, become limitless, would impose the end of the role of violence as a means and method of progress." And indeed from then onwards, Lenin, who had already campaigned against anti-Semitism and injustice, began his New Economic Policy which allowed private enterprise, banned State control of prices and wages and started democratizing local gov't in Russia and then in the new Soviet Union (all those innovations were later destroyed by Stalin). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin#1920-22 So here comes the antithesis: Given that some rulers and thinkers - epitomized by Lenin and Wells - were becoming aware of a new cosmic reality, others - like Stalin and some newly powerful western rulers - who wished to retain and amplify the use of violence, would have to suppress such thoughts in the population, and later, to withhold and suppress _any_ evidence of (Lenin's) "interplanetary communication". That might've begun the establishment's habit of damning all progressive thought as `science-fiction' worthy only of ridicule, and their blanket denial of all UFO evidence. Which is where we are right now. Any really advanced entities, organic or AI, will presumably have knowledge of other and earlier-discovered `primitives' ruled by self-appointed thugs, thieves and mass-murderers. Therefore their approach to communicating with them would probably _not_ include dealings with such rulers. And much of the evidence supports this. But, as Admiral Hill-Norton warned: "There's probably more than one civilization visiting us, each with different methods and motives." (paraphrased) Cheers Ray D Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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