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Re: The Momentum Question - Cox

From: David Rudiak <drudiak.nul>
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 11:44:39 -0700
Archived: Tue, 21 May 2013 08:29:06 -0400
Subject: Re: The Momentum Question - Cox


>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 09:22:12 +0100
>Subject: Re: The Momentum Question - Cox

>>From: Stanton T. Friedman <fsphys.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 10:20:09 -0300
>>Subject: Re: The Momentum Question - Cox


>So we can estimate that, to even approximately emulate the
>observed performance of some UFO's, a human-built craft would
>almost certainly have to use massive electro-magnetic power.
>Problem is - how do you carry the huge power-supply?

Make the ship's hull a huge super-capacitor to store the
electrical energy.  I once did a calculation that showed that,
given certain assumptions, you could store enough energy for
such a ship to drop down out of orbit, poke around a bit, then
return to orbit.  Such assumptions include very lightweight but
strong materials to lessen the amount of energy needed (also
reduce inertia) and dielectric material with a high dielectric
constant and high breakdown voltage (enables you to store a lot
of charge with a lot of energy).  Basically you need better
materials.

Another possibility would be to beam the energy to the small
scout ships using something like microwaves.

>And for any organic occupants or passengers the problem still
>seems insurmountable - if all observed UFO manoeuvres are to be
>attempted.

The ship itself can handle the high-G accelerations if it is
made of strong, lightweight materials.  We have small missiles
that can make 70 g turns.  Paul Hill pointed out that we have
had small anti-tank missiles that can handle thousands of g's
since the 1960s.

As for the assumed organics, I just wrote a post covering
several possibilities, including large, superconducting magnets
generating a large diamagnetic force that can cancel most
inertial forces.  It would require about one order of magnitude
improvement in present superconducting materials, also light-
weight and high temperature superconductors wouldn't hurt.

>Of course both puzzles might be cured by the discovery of some
>physics presently unknown to us (like solving the inertia
>mystery) - which might also entail `refueling' from
>thunderstorms or power-grids.

Or new physics that might reduce or eliminate inertia, an
antigravity force (Heim theory predicts this), change time so
that accelerations are actually over a much longer time from the
perspective of the craft occupants.  These are far more
speculative and unproven at this time. Diamagnetism is not new
physics, but the engineering problems are enormous and we still
don't have the superconducting materials we would need.


David Rudiak



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