From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 12:52:10 -0000 Archived: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 08:00:17 -0400 Subject: Re: "Thought" Definition >From: Jason Gammon <boyinthemachine.nul> >To: post.nul >Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 17:10:57 -0500 (EST) >Subject: Re: "Thought" Definition >>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul> >>To: <post.nul> >>Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 22:51:19 -0000 >>Subject: Re: "Thought" Definition <snip> >>As Roger Penrose asked - "who's going to volunteer to be >>John#1?" >Yes, John #1 will die. Disregarding any pain from trauma, the >death process itself is rather painless. <snip> >>iii) the mind and body are more intricately inter-linked than >>we usually realize. Recall how your mood/optimism/views are >>entirely different after a good meal? Or after physical >>exercise, danger or sex for that matter? <snip> Hi Jason Further analysis is making that 'immortality' ambition look even grimmer. As you've admitted, the 'upload' or 'translation' of a personality copy into a machine of some sort is just a way of committing suicide, as far as the human is concerned. You can't copy neuron patterns and their electron fields without destroying the original. In addition, for now and the foreseeable future, we have to expect flaws, to a greater or lesser extent, in the copying process. So the resulting 'personality' in the machine will be damaged, distorted and possibly even psychotic. Is society going to allow autonomous and (possibly) psychotic machines to freely wander around among humans - adults and children? Nope. At the most I could expect that some static (definitely immobilized) machine-personalities _might_ be stored in a secure vault, maybe with visits from vetted adults who are known to be stable (because they have regular checks) and who are _not_ impressionable in the least. And that those machine-personalities would be allowed only a text interface with their visitors. That's because even an audio-visual interface could be a dangerous weapon if controlled by a psychotic machine-intelligence with massive memory and computing power - and unknown motives. Their motives will be unknown and unknowable because, with no physical feedbacks - 'rewards' and 'punishments' from a long- dead physical body - the already damaged personality in the machine will certainly deteriorate pretty fast, in any number of ways. All in all that's not an attractive prospect for an 'immortal' future. Cheers Ray D Listen to 'Strange Days... Indeed' - The PodCast At: http://www.virtuallystrange.net/ufo/sdi/program/ These contents above are copyright of the author and UFO UpDates - Toronto. They may not be reproduced without the express permission of both parties and are intended for educational use only.
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