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Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

From: Vincent Boudreau <vincentboudreau.nul>
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:21:18 -0400
Archived: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:37:55 -0400
Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:22:31 -0500
>Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

>>From: Vincent Boudreau <vincentboudreau.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 15:26:49 -0400
>>Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

>>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 07:58:36 -0500
>>>Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

>>>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>>>To: <post.nul>
>>>>Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:13:37 +0100
>>>>Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing


>>>>Ha! Conformist hack journalists wanting brownie points churn
>>>>this stuff out on a regular basis.

>>>>Why do folk believe in 'conspiracy theories'? Because they know
>>>>of small and large conspiracies all around them - in every town
>>>>hall, county court and seat of legislature.

>>>>The fact is that when people get _any_ power they get corrupt,
>>>>and corrupt people conspire.


>>The problem with the notion of "conspiracy theory" is that it
>>has become a device used to prevent any further discussion about
>>facts that do not fit the _official_ explanation.

>>A good example of this is the 911 incident. Some facts
>>definitely don't add up: Building 11 went down, flight 93
>>yielded no significant debris and the hole in the Pentagon does
>>not fit the plane that allegedly hit it.

>>This will not be addressed because some point their index
>>uttering the ultimate accusation: "conspiracy theory",
>>ultimately filibustering the debate with two words.


>The problem with an argument like this is that in effect it
>denies the existence of the psychological/social/political
>phenomenon of conspiracy theories, in other words paranoia-
>based, empirically unjustified allegations about public misdeeds
>and their causes, of the sort that been documented all through
>history (or that you can hear from any barstool ranter). In this
>formulation, in which ordinary thinking is turned on its head,
>one idea must be judged as good as another. The crime is not
>spreading falsehoods but calling the falsehood spreader by name,
>in this case conspiracy theorist.

>And while you're making that argument, call the conspiracy-
>theory nonbeliever a bigot and liken him to a homophobe. Next
>thing, you can declare that critics of conspiracy theories are
>akin to anti-Semites and racists. In fact, something is
>fundamentally wrong with the argument if you have to resort to
>such bizarre tropes.

>Yes, it is true that, for but one example, Watergate, an abuse
>of power of historic dimensions, occurred. No, it does not
>follow that it is equally true that Jews control the world
>economy, that President Eisenhower was a Soviet agent, that the
>U.S. government is in collusion with evil aliens, or that
>President Obama, whose foreign birth sinister conspirators have
>concealed, secretly directs an international jihadist network.
>Or that the last Bush administration was behind 9/11, as our
>correspondent seems to believe may be the case.

>Again, indulging in this sort of unhinged thinking only serves
>to divert us from the detection of real scandals and abuses
>which deserve to be exposed and and which do not require us to
>make fantastic leaps of faith and good sense to credit.
>Conspiracy theorists have the paradoxical function of serving
>those in power by trivializing issues, just as UFO crackpots and
>extremists have diminished the impact of serious investigators
>seeking to document genuinely puzzling sightings. Reality is
>complex and confusing, but ultimately it does not have the
>texture, or the plot, of a cheesy paperback thriller, the true
>home of the conspiracy theory.

>Here's a conspiracy theorist in action:


>It's good - necessary - to be skeptical about what official
>authority tells you. (All of us who were deeply suspicious of
>what we were told in the lead-up to the Iraq War have been fully
>vindicated.) It's also wise to be skeptical about what
>conspiracy theorists peddle. There is plenty of high-level
>deception and skulduggery to go around, but you're not going to
>learn about it from Alex Jones, the John Birch Society, and
>their frightened faithful.. There's a reason - and not a
>conspiratorial one, as our correspondent implies - that
>conspiracy theories are held in such disrepute. One idea is not
>as good as another. In the end, facts matter.


You have misread my post.

I simply point out that "conspiracy theory" has become an ad
hominem attack to prevent any further discussion on delicate

It has become a device to end the discussion.

Antisemitism would be another.

Racist also.

Bigot also.

Not that conspiracy theories, antisemitism or racism do not
exist, it is that their use has been corrupted in some way: they
have have become tripe.

I am not saying that they should not be used either, but
considering their power, and their modern distorted usage, it
becomes necessary to use them wisely and to be prepared to back
them up with robust facts.

In a sense, one has to be able to put one's money where one's
mouth is.

Hence, one cannot sit there and spit out "conspiracy theory" and
expect to be given a free pass to not further pursue the
discussion with facts and keen analysis.

Buzz words must be upgraded from laziness to accountability.

That would clear the air immensely.

I am sure we can all do without the name calling.

Vincent Boudreau

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