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Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:50:50 -0500
Archived: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 10:18:26 -0400
Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>To: <post.nul>
>Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:11:55 +0100
>Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

>>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>>To: post.nul
>>Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:22:31 -0500
>>Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

>>>From: Vincent Boudreau <vincentboudreau.nul>
>>>To: post.nul
>>>Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 15:26:49 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing


>>>Me think accusing some one of "conspiracy theory" is in itself
>>>a conspiracy against the pursuit of truth.
>>>Let's just address the facts, shall we?

>>The problem with an argument like this is that in effect it
>>denies the existence of the psychological/social/political
>>phenomenon of conspiracy theories, in other words
>>paranoia-based, empirically unjustified allegations about public
>>misdeeds and their causes, of the sort that been documented all
>>through history (or that you can hear from any barstool ranter).


>Hi Jerry,

>And the trouble with your argument is that, while we've all
>heard of paranoid schizos (yet they seem very rare in this neck
>of the woods - wonder how many there _really_ are?), in reality
>the most paranoid folk around are those with stuff to lose. And
>that's mil-sec and politicos.

>Here's a quote I wrote some time ago:

>"It seems that, if we don't know what a thing is, we humans are
>inclined to make up explanations and believe the worst. So
>obsessive gov't secrecy has bad effects in the citizenry.

>However because politicos, judiciary, financiers, security/cops
>and media are notoriously ignorant of reality (the working
>world, how to think constructively, and even of real science),
>our rulers get more and more paranoid - and therefore even more
>obsessively secretive. That's a vicious circle."

>The backstory to that observation is at:


>and it includes a barstool ranter (although he was a bit quieter
>than that).

Hi, Ray,

I guess I don't grasp the relevance of this to the point I made,
which is that (1) real official misconduct occurs and (2)
empirically baseless claims grounded only in the paranoid
imagination only cloud a real issue.

Conspiracy theorists, by the way, now accuse America's leading
conspiracy theorist Alex Jones of promoting absurd conspiracy
theories in order to the discredit "real" conspiracy theorists
at the behest of even more sinister conspirators whom Jones
serves as a paid agent. The moral of the story: Once you enter
the rabbit hole, there's no escape.

In the context of ufology, cranks and extremists diminish the
impact of serious research into genuinely unexplained UFO
reports. I don't think they're part of any conspiracy -- well,
beyond the usual conspiracy of dunces.

Then, of course, the U.S. government _could_ be in collusion
with evil aliens, and President Eisenhower _may_ have been
working for the Soviet Union, and President Obama _may_ be an
Islamic terrorist.

And also, I could be a CIA or Illuminati operative trying to
snow everybody on this UpDates for dark purposes. Hell, I may
even be an alien. Just try to prove I'm not.


Jerry Clark

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