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Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:24:28 +0100
Archived: Mon, 07 Oct 2013 15:20:01 -0400
Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

>From: Jerome Clark <jkclark.nul>
>To: post.nul
>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 09:55:23 -0500
>Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 12:21:30 +0100
>>Subject: Re: The Conspiracy Of Conspiracy Theorizing


>>iv) periodically media hacks - directly or indirectly paid or
>>controlled by MSM and establishments - re-hash that 'conspiracy
>>theory' canard as if it were true and therefore dangerous to

>>What could be more dangerous than the real and proven
>>conspiracies - many murderous and often war-mongering, and
>>_all_ designed to keep the public in ignorance - that we
>>already know about?

>>And don't forget there _is_ an unknown number of conspiracies
>>in existence that we can only suspect or guess at.


>In any event, I have now repeatedly violated my longstanding
>personal belief, learned through hard experience, that it is
>futile to argue with someone inclined to conspiracy theories. I
>leave it to UpDates readers to judge who has the better of the
>argument, and I move on. Meantime, whenever I read your UpDates
>posts in the future, Ray, I will remember where you're coming

Thanks Jerry,

Your remarks reminded me of a facility available, so this
afternoon when trying to list the music I liked, and (being a
busy person) finding my mind a blank, went to my website where
I'd already recorded it as is/was. While there, browsed a little
and found that where I and others _had_ forecast conspiracies -
most first recorded a decade or so ago - they've since been
confirmed, some much larger and more inter-linked than even I
had expected.

BTW - your resorting to 'ad hominem' tactics confirms what I/we
already thought about the 'conspiracy theorists' canard:
I.e. it's just another ad hominem ploy, to be used when logical
arguments fail.

For definition and use of that term see:




And if you want to read a more realistic review of conspiracies
etc - maybe try Peter Knight's 'Conspiracy Culture', where he
says, among other things, "Conspiracy theories are neither
innately radical nor inevitably harmful", and "How else do you
account for the paradoxes of causation and control in a world in
which everything is connected, without sounding paranoid ?" - and
illustrates both with many apt modern quotes and references.


Ray D

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