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Re: Are We Observing ETI Without Realizing It?

From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:16:12 +0100
Archived: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 06:34:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Are We Observing ETI Without Realizing It?


>From: Albert Baier <albertgbaier.nul>
>To: UFO UpDates - Toronto <post.nul>
>Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 12:10:00 -0500
>Subject: Re: Are We Observing ETI Without Realizing It?

>>From: Ray Dickenson <r.dickenson.nul>
>>To: <post.nul>
>>Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 12:21:23 +0100
>>Subject: Are We Observing ETI Without Realizing It?

><snip>

>>energy flows might actually be a sign of Kardashev Type I or II
>>civilizations actively milking stars for power.

<snip>

>Many people are working on making solar power more efficient,
>and this is good, but not enough folks are working on systems to
>recover energy from the vacuum (ZPE), which, in theory, contains
>infinite energy. (for an explanation of the vacuum, see my
>reference to Don Hotsons work in this list)

<snip>

>The actual situation is that Science and Religion differ little,
>if at all.

<snip>

Hi Albert,

Yup, have to agree with much of that and commented on the modern
'science/religion' situation earlier:

http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2013/jan/m13-003.shtml

And, while as you say, that Vacuum Energy does _appear_ to be
infinite, would recommend care. I've long had a sneaky feeling
that other 'constants' might depend on the ZPE - when viewing it
as a form of 'ether', and posted a caution to that effect some
time ago:

http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/nov/m23-008.shtml

Here's extracts:

"Should we even try at this stage of our development? Don't
forget that any meaningful experiment of ours will be instantly
detectable across the Galaxy, and maybe the Universe. [Maybe
that's the qualification for the Galactic Club - being able to
use the 'Ether' without destroying your home planet?]"

and

"If the most advanced civilizations are aware of any such
dangers (and we should expect them to be), would a Galactic
Police Force immediately react to a primitive group (like us)
messing with the thermostat?"


Cheers

Ray D



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